Yelp and Its Discontents
Why does a simple review site drive people so crazy?
The business owners she talked to essentially had the same stories. They would note that one day their Yelp rankings were high, and some other day, after a phone call from Yelp's sales team, their rankings were low. They also would have trouble getting rid of spammy reviews—something Yelp has since addressed by letting business owners respond to reviews for free. While upsetting for them and definitely worthy of complaint, that's not enough to win a claim for damages.
Additionally, spokeswoman Stephanie Ichinose freely admitted that Yelp has an automated moderation system that sometimes removes legitimate reviews from businesses' pages. And business owners get upset even when their rankings improve thanks to that system. Removed reviews may have been written by users whose reputations have declined, or the moderation system may have identified the reviewer as a shill or a disgruntled employee. Several users e-mailed me to express confusion over the fact that their reviews weren't removed from their own pages or views of the Web site but were removed from everyone else's view of the exact same page. Ichinose e-mailed, "This system proves frustrating for some because it sometimes affects perfectly legitimate reviews. The flip side is that it helps protect against fake reviews from malicious competitors and disgruntled former employees. We think we've struck a balance that works well for business owners and consumers alike."
I asked Ichinose whether Yelp has considered creating an "archive" page of sorts, which a user could click on to see every rejected review for any given business. She replied: "If we show businesses what we regard as legitimate/valued (versus not), it helps them figure out our system that much faster. There isn't an easy solution, but we continue to explore ways to stay ahead of this." Yelp should indeed find a way to alert users when their reviews are marked for removal, as its current system does create confusion and mistrust.
For readers who think it sounds as if Yelp is overpolicing its review process, consider the e-mail I received from the owner of a Web site that offers to deploy, for a fee, the reviewing talents of more than 500 apparently compromised Yelp "proxy accounts" for any business owners who feel their Yelp scores are "inaccurate."
Yelp deletes perfectly accurate reviews.
True. Robert Dall, who runs the Coffee Vancouver blog, was solicited by a Yelp employee to add reviews from his blog to Yelp's new Vancouver listings. After doing so, and noting his blog url in each review, Yelp deleted his reviews and locked out his account, accusing him of spamming. After Robert wrote up his story and contacted Yelp, it realized it had made an error and offered to reinstate him. Understandably, he declined.
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YELP in HELL
YELP in HELL!
We pray YELP goes bankrupt and sinks to the bottom of hell, and takes
its MAFIA YELPERS with them. We pray that GOD shows no mercy for all
the emotional damage and EXTORTION they have inflicted upon small business owners and
the children they support. YELP is a den of snakes and deserve to BURN
for the lies and slander they spread on the world wide web.
PRAY PSALMS 140 FOR THEIR
DESTRUCTION!
Say five times: "Archangel Michael destroy YELP today!"
The larger issue
Yelp: The name itself is irritating to me, as it typifies the "everybody's-famous-for-15-minutes" mania that has taken over this country. Anonymous people able to post whatever self-important bleatings they wish, and perhaps decimate the reputation of a good business, with little opportunity for the business to defend itself.
I never liked like the tone of the communications that come from Yelp, and that was before reading the claims of behind-the-scenes manipulation.
There is something undeniably creepy about the accelerating trend of companies tracking so much personal information about so many people... the secret algorithms.... the manipulating of data to influence consumer choices.
I'm hardly a conspiracy buff, but anytime there is a system from which someone stands to make large amounts of money by gaming it, you can guarantee someone will be trying to do just that.
The ACLU commercial about ordering a pizza and being chided for one's cholesterol level, which seemed far-fetched, gets more believable every day.
Yelp
Since being banned from Yelp my coffee blog has sky rocketed in popularity both from the banning as every loves a little controversy, but also and more importantly people see that you can't review a business in 50 words and a star rating.
Their is a reason Journalist would do food reviews of 300 - 500 words. Because when you write that much you real feelings about the place are revealed. For example the Yelp reviewed the Vancouver Public Library.
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/vancouver-public-library-vancouver-14#hrid:1ToqNr...
They give this building 3 stars and states: Pros: Pretty sweet looking architecture Good place to take pictures. Haven't actually gone inside, but it looks Huge. Cons: None
How can yelpers possible review something they haven't even gone inside! How many things is she reviewing without going inside? Now the VPL downtown is a awesome place that is full of wonder and adventure! But sadly lacks restroom facilitates for the amount of people who come to enjoy it.
Again this has nothing to do with the VPL but more the quality of the review.
When I review a cafe I go three or four times over the course of a week and spend almost twenty bucks in coffee to make sure I have seen the cafe at all times of the day. To do an review also take me about 4 -6 hours from start to finish. And everything I have heard from my users is they love the detail of any post, if gives them a real sense of the cafe as a typical patron would see it.
You just can do that in 50 words or less. You can read more about how we review here: http://coffeevancouver.ca/our-mantra/
Aside from being banned a lot of my issue with Yelp and what I have heard from other users is their reviews just don't hold any weight, any authority or professional knowledge.
Regards
Robert Dall
Author / Owner
Coffee Vancouver
http://coffeevancouver.ca