If You Knew Suze Like We Know Suze

If You Knew Suze Like We Know Suze

You wouldn’t listen to her advice.

Posted Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 10:56am

"Tell me what I need to know," people often say to me. "Here is what you need to know," I answer.

—Suze Orman, The Road to Wealth

How a bottle-blond former waitress and self-described "55-year-old virgin" with a taste for the good life became the financial messiah for millions of Americans might be a fun Lifetime original movie. Why the masses continue to invest their faith in Suze Orman in the wake of a financial meltdown she never saw coming is a more timely question. The answer is complicated.

If you've managed to avoid Orman over the past decade, you don't watch Oprah, CNBC, or PBS, and you've probably never entered an airport bookstore, where her toothy, cougarlike visage graces the covers of numerous best-sellers, the latest of which, 2009 Action Plan, has more than 1 million copies in print and has, according to her publisher, been downloaded 2.2 million times at www.suzeorman.com. There, you might also be convinced to open an Orman-sponsored TD Ameritrade brokerage account or buy one of the products that she also sells on QVC, including: the Suze Orman FICO Kit Platinum Version w/Action Planner ($47.70); the Suze Orman Identity Theft Protection Kit w/Anti-Spyware ($39.78); and Suze Orman's Organize and Protect Financial System ($66 plus S&H; Easy Pay! Installment plan available).

Orman is that most modern breed of capitalists, the human-industry, self-mythologizing. "Suze has a unique grasp of the role money plays in our lives, as well as the gift of timing: she tells us exactly what we need to know, precisely when we need to know it." So, at least, claims the jacket copy of one of her books. She addresses her fans either as "my friends" (learned from John McCain, perhaps?) or as "girlfriend." Although she published a comprehensive—and very useful—guide to personal finance in 2001, her first two best-sellers focused on the "emotional roadblocks" to financial freedom. Suze has a lot to say about emotional roadblocks, among other things: "Falling in love is simple—or so it often seems in retrospect"; "Tears are God's way of forgiving you"; "You will never achieve a sense of power over your life until you have power over your money"; and "The stock market is like a pot of soup."

She has less patience for statistics. Although study after study has shown that personal bankruptcies are caused primarily by catastrophic events like divorce, job loss, and, above all, medical bills and that most of us are struggling with a gap between our income growth and the soaring cost of necessities like housing, Suze tends toward psychological causes that invariably blame the victim. Who is struggling these days, according to Suze? "People who grew up without much money and later earn a comfortable living sometimes spend too much to make up for what they didn't get as children. ... People who feel entitled to the good life, or are unconsciously copying a mother or father who lived beyond her or his means. ... If you feel the need to impress people with what you have rather than with who you are, you are at high risk for credit card abuse." This from a woman who spends $500,000 a year chartering private jets and who sells "Cruise With Suze" packages on an Italian luxury liner. (She has also hawked for GM, claiming that leasing a luxury car—you know, the kind that people drive to impress others—is a terrific financial decision: "If you ask me, that's smart money!") No wonder she winks more than Sarah Palin, girlfriend.

But it is not Suze's hypocrisy or even her intellectual laziness that really bothers me; no, that would be something Suze "loves" called "dollar cost averaging," which involves buying the same stock over and over again as it falls. "It's a great opportunity for you when the value of the shares drops," claims Suze in the inaptly named The Road to Wealth, "because you can buy shares at ‘bargain' prices and average down your cost per share." Oh, where to begin? Maybe with the obvious: Since when does throwing good money after bad make you rich?

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Horrible Article

As soon as I read James Scurlock's attacks on Suze Orman's physical appearances, I was done reading. How could I possibly believe or trust anything else this author has to say when I know it's a completely biased opinion that is personal and not professional? I can't believe MSN.com allowed this trashy, amateur article to be on the front page of their website. I will never again trust anything from The Big Money website.

I agree

I'm completely with you. I stopped reading as well. I am not a huge Suze Orman fan, but I have found some of her advice helpful at times. I've only seen clips of her shows and lectures.

However. Her hair color, her previous jobs, her sexual history...all have absolutely nothing to do with her ability to do her job. I am all about having an opinion, but that first line was disturbing. Glad I didn't read any more.

The validity of James

The validity of James Scurlock's article is right next to Bill O'Reilly. Insulting comments towards a person's looks make you look like the idiot. And I'm disappointed in MSN.com for displaying the article on the front page, but somehow not surprised.

Amen!!!

Im glad someone wrote the article. The reason why Suze can say anything she wants is because she has NO CERTIFICATIONS OR LICENSES. Therefore, no credibility! Im not even sure if she's taken a finance class. She isnt tied into FINRA or the SEC. For if she had been, she would of had her licenses revoked.

Tyraid

Mr. Scurlock's writing style seemed more like a personally assaulting editorial and less like a well-crafted factual argument against his perceived shortcoming of her as a financial analyst. I was left with a mental image of an enraged madman spitting venom in every direction.
I thought it bizarre he attacked her for essentially buying stocks when they are declining. If a company has shown long-term stability, I thought common sense said to buy low and sell high?
Additionally, her audience is seldom people in her same finanical situation. It is reasonable to presume that someone with millions in the bank might have a different investment or money-handling strategy than someone with a few thousand or in debt.
Finally, even a cursory understanding of money matters reveals psychology certainly plays into buying, spending, and investing habits. We (Americans) are notorious for poorly handling personal economic prosperity. That's why nearly 45% of people who win multi-million dollar jackpots go broke. They start buying stuff to make-up for all they wanted but didn't have previously. It's why Phantasia (American Idol) went nuts with her spending shortly after achieving economic success and needed help from Simon to get her financial situation back in order.
In short, I believe Mr. Scurlock's article is more about some "ax to grind" than any legitimate beef he might have or his article would have been a little more factual and a little less bullying.

My Two Cents re: Orman

Thanks for the article. My friends and I will no longer be logging on due to the blantant falsohoods presented in this article.

Buh Bye!

Suze Orman

Bottle blonde? Really? I'm a bottle redhead--does that affect my credibility?

Cougarlike visage? Seriously? Because of the straight white teeth or because of her age? I don't think she goes to bars to prey on young men--isn't she a lesbian in a committed relationship?

And waitress? I'm happy for you if you've never had to take a low-status job to survive, or even just to get through college, but I'm not sure it has anything to do with your current capabilities, though it might affect your capacity for empathy.

What does all this reflect except your disdain for middle-aged women, their grooming habits, and their abilities to work their way up from menial jobs to professional positions? It doesn't support your main point, which, for the most part, I completely agree with.

I'm disturbed by this current fetish in writing: breezy, snarky, and lazy. Unfortunately, it says more about you than about your subject.

Hypocrite??

You said: "People who grew up without much money and later earn a comfortable living sometimes spend too much to make up for what they didn't get as children. ... People who feel entitled to the good life, or are unconsciously copying a mother or father who lived beyond her or his means. ... If you feel the need to impress people with what you have rather than with who you are, you are at high risk for credit card abuse." This from a woman who spends $500,000 a year chartering private jets and who sells "Cruise With Suze" packages on an Italian luxury liner...But it is not Suze's hypocrisy or even her intellectual laziness that really bothers me..."

Let me get this straight... She tells people not to live outside their means, and says that many people live above what they can afford and get themselves in trouble. She charters a private jet, sure, but she makes millions per year, and can clearly afford it. What is hypocritical about that? She advises people not to live outside their means, and, in fact, does not live outside her own. She can afford it!

It is not hypocritical to live well while counseling other people to stay within her means. The mere fact that she has money, and spends money, does not make her financial advice hypocritical.

And criticizing her theories without saying why they are wrong, or proposing some other theories that are better, doesn't add up to a critique of her. Anyone can snarkily say "that's a dumb theory," but without more... well, you might as well be "anyone" criticizing her.

Suzie Orman

I don't have any objections to the facts in your article. However, the tone and tenor of the article is offensive. "Cougar-like smile"??? What is that? "Bottle-blond"
These comments make the focus of the article personal and sexist instead of informative and intellictually biting - which is what I think the writer was aiming for. The author comes across as a bitter sexist male who settles for putting down a woman (dare I say "in her place?")instead of tackling a financial analyst who they believe is giving suspect advice.
Where was the editor on this article? It's embaressing and well below the standards of journalism and financial insight I come to expect from you all. Shame on you.

dollar cost average

In the severe downturn investor can dollar cost averege himself nito total oblivion as company tank and go bankrupt. As to paternalistic, know it all Suzy, watch it as entertainment. As to investing in stock market hard earned money, it is only good as matched 401K - pre-tax, 50-100% matched by employer, and only 3% of your pretax income. You can loose like 60% and still be where you started.

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