Will Everyone Please Shut Up About Goldman Sachs?

Will Everyone Please Shut Up About Goldman Sachs?

The bank has a culture that works. So what?

Posted Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 12:16pm

The image of Goldman Sachs (GS) as a Borg-like hive mind that breeds a bald master-race of capitalists has picked up speed during the last month. Rabble-rouser Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone memorably called Goldman "a vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money." Joe Hagan in New York magazine devoted several pages to "Goldman's current public tarring." The controversy has even attracted the genius of Michael Lewis, who wrote a searingly funny column in the wounded voice of the firm, arguing that Goldman owns only one of the three branches of government outright and that the firm habitually rounds down any number under $50 billion directly to zero.

Needless to say, there is much to make Goldman's rivals suspicious. Super-powered trading programs? Politically prominent alums? Orcs and vampire squid? No wonder rivals can't imitate returns like the firm's $3.4 billion second-quarter profit. These guys are clearly running on a supernatural level, right?

Mission accomplished: The House of Representatives now wants to call Goldman—a firm that no longer owes anything to the government—on the carpet in what are sure to be disastrously populist hearings.

Enough already. After years of full-on Goldman Sachs conspiracy theories—implying that the firm runs the world—we all know that Goldman Sachs alums get pretty good jobs when they leave the firm. But the real question to ask is why they don't do better. If you believe that Goldman Sachs has designed the kind of devastating hive mind that can control any institution it touches, including the U.S. government, you also have to explain why Goldman Sachs alums have a history of not functioning terribly well outside of Goldman. Why, for instance, did Henry Paulson, by all accounts a brilliant man, flounder about in the politics of the Treasury so desperately that he was forced at one point to plead with Nancy Pelosi on bended knee? Why did the first TARP overseer, Neel Kashkari, get yelled at by Congress while performing the thankless job of managing the $700 billion kitty of the government? Why did Edward Liddy, former Goldman board member who served as the new CEO of AIG (AIG), quit in a huff over bonuses?

And it's not just the TARP boys. Look at Goldman Sachs alumnus Jon Corzine, enmeshed in scandals as governor of New Jersey, or John Thain, the Goldman Sachs alum who, whatever his capabilities, will always be remembered as the guy who charged a $35,000 commode to Merrill Lynch. Or consider Robert Rubin, the former treasury secretary and Goldman alum who flamed out at Citigroup after collecting tens of millions of dollars in compensation for many years. Or Stephen Friedman, who stepped down from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York under sketchy circumstances.

On Wall Street, I often heard from several bankers who had hired former Goldman bankers and were disappointed at the lack of magic or voodoo. These bankers theorized that Goldman bankers lacked the scrappiness or hustle of their colleagues; in previous lives, the allegation goes, their work was done when they dazzled a client with a Goldman Sachs business card. As Hagan points out, the difference is the Goldman culture. In fact, the highest compliment one Goldman banker can give to another is to call him or her "a culture carrier." But what is the Goldman culture, and why does it make such a difference? I talked with current and former Goldman bankers and officials to find out. Obviously, their views on it were mostly positive—but isn't that what you want to know: why Goldman bankers are so fervent about their culture?

So let's proceed. The basic rule of Goldman culture is that the company manages its people exactly the opposite of how every other Wall Street firm does. It's not that Goldman doesn't have its egos—it surely does—but as a matter of management, the firm also has several safeguards in place to keep rampant egos from destroying decision-making. Another thing that makes Goldman different from other firms is not that all Goldman bankers agree but that they are free—and, in fact, encouraged—to disagree. Anyone who has read accounts of Goldman's knockdown, drag-out fights over going public will understand this, as will anyone who has read two great books about Goldman: The Partnership and The Culture of Success. The firm's management committee meetings are, by all accounts, rambunctious affairs full of disagreement. John Thain once presented a case for Goldman's IPO to the management committee, and several of his fellow partners disagreed. Thain's reply to his vehement colleagues, according to Bloomberg: "Would it hurt you to suck up to me once in a while?" CFO David Viniar is a dragonlike protector of the firm's balance sheet, known to shoot down trading ideas and expansion plans day in and day out. Viniar's default answer, according to Goldman bankers, is "No," and he is known for his even-handed rejection of expensive schemes.

  • Heidi N. Moore is a business writer in New York City.

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Just another example

...of Goldman Sachs adoration by this particular author.

Today I came across this site for the first time (after reading a few of Matt Taibbi's recent critiques of Government Sachs). I must say, I find the quality of journalism (if you can call it that) and apparent lack of critical thinking disappointing.

I would elaborate on my critique further, but frankly, I don't think it would make any difference. You guys will just continue to publish the same illogical, fact-challenged drivel until...oh, I don't know - maybe until you run out of paying advertisers?

Anyways, count me out of your future readership. I've wasted enough time already reading this b.s. Life's too short.

Good luck in getting that job offer from GS, Ms. Moore.

Sayonara...

Is she kidding me?

Can anyone say LITTON LOAN SERVICING???? This arm of Goldman Sachs is never mentioned in any articles about the company. Is that because Litton is one of the leading subprime mortgage servicing companies making a ridiculously large contribution to Goldman's bottom line and the housing markets downfall?

Goldman Sachs

Goldman was helping originating CDO's and CMO's with the right hand, and buyins cds from AIG with the left hand like it was the end of time. Which was it? It seems to me that this constitutes a material fraud, and why some lawyer doesn't just sue for the risk managers VAR report to show the synthetic probabilties is beyond me. Criminals.

There is hope for me

I always wanted to be a writer, didn’t think I had the talent. After reading this I may have hope…

Duplicate of an article from 2 weeks ago?

At first I thought this was an accidental re-posting of a similar article from two weeks ago: http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/money-trail/2009/07/16/yes-we-do-nee... And, unfortunately, I have the same argument with this article. Any article that praises Goldman Sachs genius for their $3B profits but fails to acknowledge the $13B that the taxpayer gave to Goldman Sachs by way of AIG, fails to make that case that Goldman Sachs is all that bright.

I, too, can make a 3 billion dollar profit if the taxpayer gives me 13 billion dollars. Or, at least I'm willing to give it a try...

A good fairy tale

Goldman's culture isn't the reason for its success. It's an economic system that privatizes profit and socializes risk. They have exploited that to the tune of record "profits." Their management style has nothing to do with it. The taxpayer has everything to do with it.

It was a good article, so what?

Wow, reading through these comments is frightening in that I wonder if many people on this site learned reading comprehension at some point during high school or college. This article is about corporate culture in a specific venue where that kind of collaborative culture is, sadly, far too rare. For all those ranting about the evil of banks overall, or making money... that was not the point of this article. Let's step back a moment - what was largely the root cause for the current financial crisis? It was, for the most part (clearly not completely, but generally) due to a complicated system of syndications that packaged securities in a way that did not clearly outline the underlying investments and risk involved, setting up a system in which real risk was unclear due to a combination of reclassifying and then repackaging risk traunches. This structure then fell apart when part those underlying investment classes (housing loans) went batty due to a seismic shift in home values and the subsequent bursting of that bubble. It was at that point that many debts came due and, surprise! a whole huge structure had been built on what turned out to be a very shaky foundation. So... what is the obvious "dont' do that again" for this situation? 1) Setting up structures that are so interrelated that if one portion of the structure encounters problems the rest of the system loses half its value... don't do that! 2) Setting up divisions between these banks and departments within them such that it is impossible to understand the real risk involved in a capital structure - Don't Do THAT! Of course that is not in any way a catch all method of fixing the financial crisis, but it seems to me if you have two major contributing factors to a problem, that folks should be lauded for efforts to NOT follow that same kind of route in the future. We had a system where any naysayers to what the banks were recently doing were silenced, fired, pushed out of divisions, etc. This article does not say that GS shares no credit for the current economic straits of our country, but what it does say, and says quite well, is that the culture at Goldman is FAR better than that of most other financial players. I would hope that we could agree that forward progress is a good thing, and perhaps we should raise the level of debate to a point where we can look at and evaluate the details of a situation rather than reading an article the contains the name of a bank and having a Pavlovian moment that throws everyone into a rabid froth.

Paulson isn't floundering.

"...you also have to explain why Goldman Sachs alums have a history of not functioning terribly well outside of Goldman..." See, this is where you're wrong Heidi. They DO function very well outside of Goldman. That is precisely why they're getting yelled at by congressmen. Because instead of serving the taxpayers, they're serving GS. So really, the more they get yelled at, the better job they're doing. (for GS) Who said getting away with lying, cheating, and stealing was easy? Of course you will look ridiculous trying to defend your actions. Why is this so hard to understand?

Crudibility

The reporter's role of defending Government Sachs without actually going point by point on Taibbi's excellent sandblasting is nothing but pure credibility killer. Clearly, GS is in a bind, for the company that never speaks up about criticism is suddenly talking back, and asking obviously captured reporters to help out. But of course, we all know this depression isn't over, nor are the banks even remotely out of danger. Man, this is just going to be ugly. I only wish it was a reality show, but instead, we're all on Survivor together. I guess GS is Richard Hatch, winning with brilliant smarts and tactics, and not paying his taxes. Of course, he went to jail.

Talk about sick and deluded, or is it sick and deliberate?

Defending the indefensible. Is that your new career? How about writing a fervent defense of child molesters while you're at it? I understand that the Mafia has a culture that works too. How about we back off on them? After all, while the rest of us are unemployed, these guys are out extorting money and manipulating industries, just the sort of thing you seem to worship from the reading of your ....what's the word I'm looking for.... bullshit is as close as I can come. We need a whole new class of swear words that we can employ to express the degree of disdain that people who make 20 to 50 thousand dollars a year must have for these kings of crime after bailing them out and watching them stuff our money down their pants. It's too bad really that we use our law enforcement almost exclusively for tasering grandmothers and arresting college professors in their own home, and our military to exterminate wedding parties and funerals, when a swift assault of and arrest of the crooks at Goldman Sachs would do so much more to straighten out the mess they have created, but do not suffer from. I've read Slate since it's very earliest years. This is the first time I've felt compelled to write a comment, and I have to tell you that this article fills me with disgust and loathing. How anyone could write this kind of drivel is beyond me. What next, should we pass the hat, and send the few dollars any of us have left to create a trust fund for misunderstood bankers? These people are looting the nation. That's all there is to that. They neither deserve nor give any respect. Welcome to the ranks of the nuveau sleazy. I hope you get that GS job you're auditioning for. Sincerely, dslarsen

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