Go Ahead, Walk Away

Go Ahead, Walk Away

There is nothing immoral about ditching your mortgage.

Posted Thursday, October 8, 2009 - 5:18am

A solid two years into the housing bust, the national foreclosure wave doesn't show the least signs of abating. Banks that had called a foreclosure moratorium are now back to the business of taking back properties, and the foreclosure numbers are again at record highs. As the foreclosures rise, so too does the criticism of “walkaways” who hand the keys to their drastically devalued houses back to the bank.

Last month a study from the credit reporting agency Experian and consulting outfit Oliver Wyman estimated that close to a fifth of troubled mortgages involved borrowers who were “strategically” defaulting—walking away from mortgages they could pay but decided not to because they owed more than their houses were worth. Self-assigned guardians of financial ethics see the willingness of borrowers to abandon their mortgage debts as a sign of the “erosion of social and moral standards.” The aim of these critics is to shame debtors into sticking with their mortgages. That's something debtors should take with a grain of salt. There are many good reasons to keep paying your mortgage and avoid the black mark of foreclosure, but the immorality of sticking the bank with a loss isn't one of them.

Some observers, like Zubin Jelveh of the New Republic, have taken issue with the Experian-Wyman study's methods, arguing that it was too broad in defining “strategic” default. But unlike some other reports that play up the number of deadbeat debtors, this study uses a fairly narrow and defensible definition to arrive at its conclusion that 18 percent of mortgage defaults are “strategic.” (Experian showed the report to The Big Money, but asked that it not be posted.) The study focuses on borrowers who, once they hit 60 days late, roll straight through to foreclosure without ever making another payment and manage to stay current on all their credit cards.

These are pretty good signs that someone could try harder to pay the mortgage—an idea supported by the fact that the borrowers who fit the model often had higher credit scores (and so probably more financial knowledge) and tend to live in states such as California, in which banks can't keep pursuing them for more money after taking their houses.

So let's say the Experian/Wyman study is right in its assessment that there are a fair number of strategic defaulters. Those who use this study and others like it to argue that the foreclosure problem is one of moral failure among borrowers are still wrong. Borrowers who walk away from mortgages calculating that they're better off taking the risk of not paying aren't abusing the system. They're using it the way it's designed to be used.

“Strategic default” is generally seen as an issue arising from laws in some states—including California, the reeling giant of the housing bust—that make traditional mortgages “nonrecourse," meaning they don't allow lenders to pursue any shortfall after foreclosing on a house. This is a bit of a simplification, as the actual rules are complicated, especially if multiple mortgages or refinancing is involved. In California, for instance, mortgages that have been refinanced are technically no longer “nonrecourse.” They remain subject, however, to the state's “one-action rule,” which forces banks to choose between a relatively quick nonjudicial foreclosure and a much longer and more involved process of suing for all the money they're due.  As a practical matter, walking away from your mortgage is a more involved process than it might seem and not, as the critics sometimes imagine, simply a matter of living in a nonrecourse state.

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Our market is suffering from

Our market is suffering from a generally declining trend in prices, means there are more sellers than buyers. The weak market for credit, the weak market for housing, the weak market for under water woven baskets, the weak trade market, and it's depressing everybody. However – all is not lost. Cars are starting

to sell again, so are homes – any time there's a weak market, that means decreased demand, which means an increase of supply, which means that prices are

down, and stuff can be had on the cheap. Certain goods are starting to tick up already, meaning that weak market status is starting to work

its way back up, and maybe those short term loans taxpayers paid for were worth it.

Unintended consequences of Social Engineering.

I completely agree with the author that banks are in a better position position to judge the real estate market, and a borrowers ability to repay a mortgage.  Years ago they used this judgement to set their underwriting standards.  They are no longer able to do this because the standards created unequal outcomes between various racial groups, and as we all know, unequal outcomes is discrimination, and discrimination is WRONG.

The government pushed affimative action regulations like the Community Reinvestment Act that punished unequal outcomes, and tasked Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to provide funding by purchasing mortgages.  They have purchased such a large amount of the mortgages made in this country that their underwriting standards have become the standards for the entire home finance industry.

If you were a bank and could be sued for not making risky loans, and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac were saying to you "Don't worry about it, we will buy the mortgages from you." what would you do?

It's not CRA Loans

The problem with foreclosures are not CRA loans- you relly need to check out the facts before you make this sort of claim.  Studies have shown time and again that CRA bowwers are at a LOWER risk of default than the overall lending market, and sub-prime loans are 3 to 5 times MORE likely to default.

CRA loans have nothing to do with, reverse amortization, no doc, no money down, below 600 credit score, or 125% refinancing loans.  It was these types of loans made by greedy lenders and unregulated brokers whose willing partners in wall street are the culprits.

Fannie and Freddie are to blame for underwriting any of these types of loans- but again they are not CRA loans.

Over 50% of banks have reported that CRA loans are MORE profitable, and have LOWER default rates than the rest oftheir lending portfolio.

 

Everything I am sayinfg can be quickly verified by a simple search on Google- try it next time before you defend banks for being forced to make "risky" loans to minorities

Mortgage insurance

Top 4 Answers:

 

1.  Work Harder, Bankers need you to pay their spa bills!

2.  I'll pay it as soon as I get my bailout.

3.  Why was I paying mortgage insurance all this time?

4.  Ken Lewis is leaving a busted Bank of America, with a 50-million popsicle.  I think he'll be ok.

 

As home prices fall and banks

As home prices fall and banks tighten lending standards, people with good, or prime, credit histories are falling behind on their payments for home loans, auto loans and credit cards at a quickening pace, according to industry data and economists. The rise in prime delinquencies, while less severe than the one in the subprime market, nonetheless poses a threat to the battered housing market and weakening economy.

Read more.

<a href="http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php">http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php</a>

As home prices fall and banks

As home prices fall and banks tighten lending standards, people with good, or prime, credit histories are falling behind on their payments for home loans, auto loans and credit cards at a quickening pace, according to industry data and economists. The rise in prime delinquencies, while less severe than the one in the subprime market, nonetheless poses a threat to the battered housing market and weakening economy.

Read more.

<a href="http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php">http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php</a>

Walking Awy

My wife and I walked away from a home we bought in Maricop, AZ.  We bought the house for a little over $200k putting $70k down and a another $25k into the house.  We were assured that no investers were allowed to buy and everyone was required to sign papers as such subject to negating the sale if found out otherwise during the first year of residence.  We weree lied to -- neither the builder nor the morgage company would do anything when we found out the house next door was bought by investors.  Turns out the whole neighborhood was pretty much sold to investors -- and the house we bought wiith our hard earned retirment savings is worth maybe $20k.  Wall Street knew what it was doing and Wall Street controls the banks. 

Could we have afforded to continue paying on the mortgage -- not if we ever going to be able to retire, help our kids with school, etc.

Personal responsility is a code phrase for Republicans referrin to anyone that can not afford a corporation to hide behind

No personal responsibility

No one has any personal responsibilty in all this it seems...how tragic...

And what about house values?

For each of you who makes the decision to walk away because the value of your house has declined...you make the values of all the other houses go down even more....some people can not help but lose their homes and they are fighting to remain in them and then there are the people who walk away because of the decline in value????? Hurts the financial sysytem and hurts all the remaining home owners.....it's just a self serving cop out

Protecting your family is moral

Protecting yourself and your family is the moral choice. Willingly paying a 30 year mortgage you got into 3 years ago on a house that's worth 1/2 as much now is irresponsible. You'll recover from the hit you take to your credit rating long before that 27 years is over.

Default and the bank gets the house. That is the agreement you and the bank made. By giving the keys back to the bank, you are living up to your agreement.

Banks cut off lines of credit to individuals and businesses all the time. To protect themselves. Same thing.

FWIW, I would be a tad bit more sympathetic to banks if they had not forgotten all about lending standards -- and then demanded that the taxpayers bail them out when they got in trouble.

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