Should We Celebrate the Hummer-Driving Vegan?

Should We Celebrate the Hummer-Driving Vegan?


Posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 5:19pm

Dan Mitchell’s Daily Bread post today about Michael Pollan’s contretemps over Hummer-driving vegans versus Prius-driving meat-eaters reminded me of a controversial 2006 study of total costs associated with driving, say, a Hummer versus driving, say, a Prius. The study was undertaken by an outfit called CNW Marketing Research and later attacked for flawed methods. However, it did focus on one useful metric: overall mileage expectations as a measure of vehicle lifespan. Toyota and various Prius enthusiasts disputed the numbers, but the projected lifespan of a Prius fell well short of the expected lifespan of a Hummer.

Which is to be expected. The Hummer, based on a military platform—and now nearly owned in its consumer incarnation by the Chinese—is designed to last a long time and to be both mechanically simple and physically durable. A Prius is designed to operate in one environment only: paved roads. Its potential to get down in the dirt and negotiate rocky terrain, ford rivers, and so on is questionable. You can say a lot of things about people who buy Hummers, but they do buy them to last.

Pollan’s point, of course, was that eating meat is so environmentally damaging that even driving a maligned Hummer wouldn’t put a vegan at a disadvantage. However, it is probably true that if a vegan drives a Hummer, maintains it very well, and limits yearly miles driven while still stretching out ownership for several decades, then the Hummer-vegan matchup would be more sustainable than the Prius meat-eater marriage. It’s possible that one could buy a Hummer and never buy another vehicle. That’s unlikely with a Prius, which, while a Toyota and therefore built to last, simply can’t outlive a big, heavy truck. There’s also the not-insignificant matter of the Prius’ battery, which isn’t capable of lasting the life of the car and needs to be replaced.

The sustainable mobility crowd often tries to make this point with the whole question of whether you should buy a new hybrid or hang on to your old gas-powered car. This flies in the face of Cash-for-Clunkers-type programs, but it’s almost always better to keep the old car. Obviously, it would be a disaster for the auto industry if everyone drove their cars until the wheels fell off—and many people buy new or lightly used cars because their older vehicles have become a maintenance hassle or no longer fit their lifestyles—but given consumer patterns, that’s probably not a threat. But if you are buying for the long haul, bigger, heavier, and at first more polluting and gas-thirsty can be a better formula.

  • Matthew DeBord has written about the auto industry for the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Huffington Post, and Car Design News.

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Lots of data missing from your comparison

On what basis do you assume a Hummer will outlast a Prius?  JD power has the Prius at better-to best long term reliability, and the Hummer at average-or-worse.

http://www.carfax.com/car_safety/ratings/SRR.cfm/year/2003/make/TOYOTA/model/PRIUS#SARreliability

http://www.carfax.com/car_safety/srrDisplay.cfm?vin=5GRGN23U33H120826&suppressWss=Y&rptDate=1249063108886#SARreliability

And also even the links you supply say that the substantial majority of the auto's impact comes from the gas.  The hummer consumes triple the gas of a prius - there's no way the manufacture of a Prius negates that advantage, even counting the batteries.

If you wanted to try and make a case for the old Toyota Hilux as something with a long history of outstanding reliability and reasonable mileage for a truck, I'd be willing to listen.  But the Hummer is a terrible vehicle for idiots who want to pretend to be in the army, most of whom I suspect are compensating for small wieners.

Also I'm pretty sure current consumer Hummers have nothing but the exterior sheetmetal in common with the military ones.

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